I totally wish I'd thought of that, because now I can't use it. D: D: D:
If/WHEN WHEN WHEN we get a Kougaiji, I am going to need to confer beforehand and in the game with his player and probably you to figure out how Yaone will react to the situation. Because she will totally take her cues from Kougaiji. She will be thrilled to see him even as she's horrified that he's trapped in this camp with her. And being trapped is the key point, because if they honestly cannot escape here (which is what Yaone would care about; Kou would be the one who'd care about escaping with the sutra), Yaone would see no point in randomly antagonizing the Sanzo-ikkou, unless it somehow makes Kougaiji happy. Which it doesn't! Playing badass shonen dorks with Goku while ostensibly stealing the sutra makes Kougaiji happy! And Kou being safe and happy is all she cares about. Not the sutra, not his mom. Just Kou. I think part of the odd charm of "Against the Stream" was Yaone and Doku finally admitting to themselves that their love for Kou--that they want to be with him, even if he doesn't want them to be--is selfish, and that's okay for them. After all the crap of their exaggerated masochistic selflessness is out of the way, doing this is what makes them happy. And this isn't really shown as a bad thing, even though selfishness is so often aligned with evil--I think we're all trusting, Doku and Yaone included, that Kou will ultimately Do the Right Thing. Which is a heavy burden to place on Kou, but hey, sucks to be him. Yaone and Doku don't care.
So how does that translate into camp stuff? If Kougaiji comes to camp and is like "Yaone, let's go randomly attack the Sanzo-ikkou", at the point in canon I pulled her from I think she's secure enough in herself and her relationship with Kou that she can speak out if she thinks it's a stupid idea. She backtalks because she loves. Not in the "You are an idiot if you think this is a good idea and no way in hell I'm coming with you and it's your own dumb fault if you get killed" favored by the Sanzo-ikkou, but the reasonable route of "Of course I'll happily do whatever you want, Kougaiji-sama, but we don't know how long we'll be trapped here and if we'll be able to escape with the sutra, and there are many people here with unknown powerful abilities who may turn out to be Sanzo-san's allies, and we're all in such an enclosed space with so many innocent people around, fighting could be very dangerous..." It is Yaone's job to make her shonen idiots focus on the matter at hand rather than their epic melodrama. Yaone will ultimately go along with fighting if it makes Kou happy, because Kou's the one who'll ultimately take the flak for it. But she won't advocate it. So it will be Kougaiji's player's call whether or not his honor will make him insist on being active enemies of the Sanzo-ikkou just for the sake of being enemies, or whether or not he's not suicidally dense enough not to recognize when he's in an impossible situation and to just grit his teeth and make nice. Or at least make not-actively-hostile.
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Date: 2006-04-21 07:56 pm (UTC)If/WHEN WHEN WHEN we get a Kougaiji, I am going to need to confer beforehand and in the game with his player and probably you to figure out how Yaone will react to the situation. Because she will totally take her cues from Kougaiji. She will be thrilled to see him even as she's horrified that he's trapped in this camp with her. And being trapped is the key point, because if they honestly cannot escape here (which is what Yaone would care about; Kou would be the one who'd care about escaping with the sutra), Yaone would see no point in randomly antagonizing the Sanzo-ikkou, unless it somehow makes Kougaiji happy. Which it doesn't! Playing badass shonen dorks with Goku while ostensibly stealing the sutra makes Kougaiji happy! And Kou being safe and happy is all she cares about. Not the sutra, not his mom. Just Kou. I think part of the odd charm of "Against the Stream" was Yaone and Doku finally admitting to themselves that their love for Kou--that they want to be with him, even if he doesn't want them to be--is selfish, and that's okay for them. After all the crap of their exaggerated masochistic selflessness is out of the way, doing this is what makes them happy. And this isn't really shown as a bad thing, even though selfishness is so often aligned with evil--I think we're all trusting, Doku and Yaone included, that Kou will ultimately Do the Right Thing. Which is a heavy burden to place on Kou, but hey, sucks to be him. Yaone and Doku don't care.
So how does that translate into camp stuff? If Kougaiji comes to camp and is like "Yaone, let's go randomly attack the Sanzo-ikkou", at the point in canon I pulled her from I think she's secure enough in herself and her relationship with Kou that she can speak out if she thinks it's a stupid idea. She backtalks because she loves. Not in the "You are an idiot if you think this is a good idea and no way in hell I'm coming with you and it's your own dumb fault if you get killed" favored by the Sanzo-ikkou, but the reasonable route of "Of course I'll happily do whatever you want, Kougaiji-sama, but we don't know how long we'll be trapped here and if we'll be able to escape with the sutra, and there are many people here with unknown powerful abilities who may turn out to be Sanzo-san's allies, and we're all in such an enclosed space with so many innocent people around, fighting could be very dangerous..." It is Yaone's job to make her shonen idiots focus on the matter at hand rather than their epic melodrama. Yaone will ultimately go along with fighting if it makes Kou happy, because Kou's the one who'll ultimately take the flak for it. But she won't advocate it. So it will be Kougaiji's player's call whether or not his honor will make him insist on being active enemies of the Sanzo-ikkou just for the sake of being enemies, or whether or not he's not suicidally dense enough not to recognize when he's in an impossible situation and to just grit his teeth and make nice. Or at least make not-actively-hostile.